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Alex
Nonetheless, I'd still buy one b/c its Google. :)
Apple advocates can buy the iPhone, but i am pretty sure the rest of the world will turn to google. Just like what happened with web applications.
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Gmail opened the door for the acceptance of web apps? I think every big internet player had webmail before google did.
My main thought is - Google's phone will not be a smash hit - yet.
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Uh no. Criteria for the "best platform ever" would include ease to develop on. The iphone absolutely FAILS at this. No business is going to adopt a phone you have to hack to get custom apps on. Business aside, for a personal phone, there is no way in hell I'd pay 600 bucks for a phone without an extensive app library out there. I see this a the Achilles heel of the iphone and something Google will certainly attack.
Great post! This is the most comprehensive analysis I have seen in quite sometime.
I agree that they will have to support both GSM and CDMA (with no network locking like iPhone) in order to truly be open. However with the HTC partnership I think they will deploy with Sprint I wouldnt be surprised if they launched a WiMax device as well.
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Oh wait, I have one. A Nokia n95.
By way of example, it seems that Google are talking to telcos in India ... now (no disrespect intended) - how many iPhones do you think Steve Jobs has earmarked to be sold in this market?
This is about democratising the internet for everyday use for everyone ... remember google's mission statement ...
“Google’s mission is to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful.”
note the last statement ... make it universally accessible
think of google as toyota and apple as bmw ... they're just different
I think it will do email, surfing, searching (of course), IM, maps, gps (maybe), and some "Office" functionality.
All these are based on TEXT. And this is what Google is interested in. It's hard to analyze what people are talking about in a phone conversation and put that in their enormous database. Text on the other hand is easy.
I carry this around in my pocket at this point.
A Nokia N93. And I think nokia has some other phones with that specs that are more consumer friendly than mine (3 cm thick!!).
I also heard of the LG youtube phone to be released very soon with that same specs. So, may not be that revolutionary.
I'd still buy a gphone
They have been working together very closely of late... what if this is the next step?
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Nicely laid out concept. I would buy one of these phones if Google offered them. I would not mind the advertisements if they were unobtrusive (like they are in Gmail), especially if it would make the phone bill lower.
Google makes some really good applications. I love Gmail, Reader, and Docs. I use them all of the time. It's great having everything online so that I can get to it (as long as I have a connection).
I wonder how mush the gphone might cost
It's still a game changing phone. It's just going to take a lot longer to be realized. It's still the best gadget I have EVER owned, and I have owned a lot of them.
What Google is going to do is not already done by Apple and others? NONE!
With regard to carrier agnostic, it is not up to Google to decide. Remember, wireless networks are still closed. Without cooperations from carriers, no device can work in ANY network! If Google's strategy is indeed to bypass carrier control, the gPhone is dead before it ever appears.
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As for supporting CDMA - CDMA is a minority standard, there's no real reason to support it whatsoever. Very few people support it, and it's not a global phone. I'd bet that Google would simply create a 700 MHz GSM standard and support it in the phone so the phone could be universal in the US, just like GSM is everywhere else in the world.
Ok, so when Google writes an OS and integrates it tightly with their own applications, it is a "satisfying user experience", but when Microsoft does it, it's evil and anti-competitive? I am no Microsoft fan, but that is too much of a double standard. Google should not get a free pass.
Whether or not they choose to build their own hardware or outsource it or acquire another company to do it is any body's guess. However ,it will get done and it will be user-tested. Ever notice the rate of Beta that Google does?
The OS and software will be strong. Also note that Google has been a recent front-runner in the push for Open-Source. This would make the Gphone a true custom phone and would make iphone users and geeks totally envious.
As mentioned before the acquisition of GrandCentral has only made Google one step further in their domination of the communication industry. One number One Voicemail Box. Call record on-the-fly and uploaded to the internet. Visual Voicemail. Ringback tones for each caller. Sounds familiar? They're also going to need the hardware to run it on.
Internet, Telephony, and Wireless go hand-in-hand they would be stupid not to take on this important step in the future of I-net 2.0... however let's see if they can get through the red-tape.
Oh to be a Gphone Beta Tester ;)
And on to a more practical side of things, you have to look at who owns certain patents. Apple has the multi-touch interface patent and several other ones that would severely hamper any effort by Google. And there's no point. Apple is obviously interested in giving Google anything they want as far as software goes, and Google is a software company that would disappoint everyone and themselves most of all if they came out with a sub-par product. Remember, the iPhone has been worked on for years and it has a while more to go before it has all of the things originally intended.
Get real sources for this instead of speculation - the India source was discredited weeks ago, which is when that "1 week from now" is quoted as being said.
Until Google has that chunk of wireless spectrum in hand, there's absolutely zero chance of any Gphone - and even then its just more likely that Apple will break the contract with AT&T to go with Google.
Google has all sorts of projects going on, but none have produced any real success outside of their core expertise. And by success, I mean make profits. They have lots of great products, like Googe Earth, but they are being subsidized by their ad revenue. I'm not saying they can't do it, but lets not crown them the king until we see it.
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Will they lose developers who feel that G is open enough?
I love the idea of an easily modded phone (no, easier even than the Apple phone).
I strongly believe anything that comes after the iPhone would be a knock-off.The iPhone is the first to run a scaled down version of a powerful operating system.User interactivity is awesome.The first to have a real computer html browser and not wap or "something".It simply runs desktop class applications.It has features that make you wonder "what will the iPhone 2.0 be like".I believe Google should try to tie up more of it's application to Apple.They did a good job on the Google maps interface,I believe they can do more.
Though the tie-in with only one carrier is disgusting,let's not forget that the iPhone is a risk.Steve Jobs isn't even sure how it will play out in the end and that's why they have a ridiculous goal of one percent.They think partnering with the largest network might save them from a myraid of losses if the iPhone doesn't work as planned.
On the other hand Google is great.Let's be factual.If Google is going to outsource a part of the phone like Daniel said, that will be the beginning of the end for the Gphone..These other guys have been doing this in the industry in a long time and they've failed to capture what we would like,and Google going to them would be like serving sushi in sand.I read somewhere else how the Gphone could outplay Apple's.I don't think it's feasible.
On one hand you have a CEO obsessed with the user's experience and design,on the other hand you have a CEO that knows adverts and just worked on the java platform briefly.Google should be thinking of launching a GPS kind of device that improves the Google maps potential and not a phone.Owning a communications spectrum just won't cut it.
I told someone once that Google was releasing a phone and he said "It would be the iPhone cut in half".Apple will bring much more improvements to the iPhone.If they did all that on the first version,there would be no need for another series.Think the ipod.
the Gphone should have you set picture ID for yourself, so when you call the other person sees your picture, kind of like a buddy icon.
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The rumors circulating inside and outside the company are...just that....rumors.
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Data is useful information only when the receiver really interested in it, right? :)
The concepts are nothing special, either too iPhonish or Hollywoodish.
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These passed largely unheralded, as thousands of apps are created every day that massup devices and content platform. However, phoning to and from a blog? and one that can send back voice?
IM, email, www, mobile are already plugged into microblogging. With voice, you have a true merger of publishing and communications: see http://derek.abdinor.co.za/2007/08/18/microblog....
Google should repurpose Blogger or create a skunk works around these technologies. One device, anyone?
Kevin
PS: I HATE apple!!!!!!!!!
Also, I believe Apple announced over the summer that they would open up their platform to outside developers, a move designed to capture mind-share amongst software engineers and companies, since it's likely that Google would welcome outside development on its gPhone platform.
Google's strategy is similar to Microsoft's failed attempt to create a mobile OS that could be used by multiple hardware vendors. Google would own the software piece, and issue minimum specifications for the phone platform (much as M$ does for the PC platform). Hardware vendors would be free to develop devices that meet the specifications, and to compete with each other on added features and price. Google would certify hardware as being gPhone compliant, and provide a software development infrastructure for outside developers.
The gPhone prototype is not so much a prototype as a reference standard for the hardware companies. The genius is that there could be differences in form factor and input methods in the devices that the gPhone manufacturers produce, so MOST users would find something they like.
Go Google!
Jaiku on GPhone? of course!
Competition is a great thing , and the winner is always the customer
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i was playing with my dads iPhone and i called my friend and the call dropped 30 seconds into the conversation.Omg and the iPhones key bored is the worst thing ever. Cant wait till the gPhone comes out
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All these little companies with their start-up CEOs are being hobbled together by the hugest, and hence most autistic, organization in information today, as part of a plan to privatize much of the remaining free, or public domain, bandwidth to pay what is truly the most autistic organization since the Roman empire, the US government, which from what we can tell will spend it for just a few days of war in Iran.
What is so old here to me is your myopia. What is bizarre to me is that once again, RMS is right on the money.
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Google hasn't revolutionized anything... they made search better, that's about it. What makes the iPhone as good as it is, is it's vertical integration... there will be none of this with your "gphone."
The fact remains that Google wants to be the next M$... do any of you really want that? The only kink in the chain for their plans of world domination is that they are a one hit wonder - plain and simple.
You all need to get a life.
I will be purchasing one as I am an Indie mobile game developer and working with this phone will open alot of doors in terms of creativity and profitability.
Apple's iPhone looks very impressive, but from a development point of view the gPhone is the clear winner.
im looking for one network for all over the world, do those phones supply this requirement?
Nokia is doing something on similar lines bringing add ons with its service and changing the face of its new phone to touchscreen and google is entering into the market as well
http://www.reviewsaurus.com/web-applications-re...
On another note, it seems like we're approaching ideas for complete, all in one, total control devices that we will not be able to function without. Perhaps it's just some minor paranoia, but that sounds somewhat Orwellian to me...
I would like to have a tough time selecting between re-invented iPhone and invented GPhone...
The Iphone is supposedly something that "does it all" with such a minimal data transfer / storage capacity that I would rather just keep my Ipod / flash drive / cell phone on me and not be happy with all of the separate possibilities I get by having more than one way of multi connectivity despite the inconvenience.
its a piece of crap and people are paying ridiculous prices for obsolete hardware... I mean be sensible people, the most obvious ways to make this a good product are to pay attention to
A it has to be fast
B Data input cant be annoying
C You pay for what you get ($ vs Hardware)
D How does it play with other devices
E Is it practical?
F battery life
G features and usefulness
H Why is this product better than every other product out there.
I Do the people out there really need another version of a device with more features to buy
its the alphabet of questions that need to be asked before anything is created, and in my opinion mac failed to ask these questions when producing the Iphone... thats the reason why it wasn't the primo device of the decade, and the reason why it is failing miserably.
1. They are a search engine and have little to no experience in the OS industry (i.e. they have no tried and tested platform to run their os).
2. They are going to be their own provider. That right there is just a dusty trail. If someone has problems with their service (which they will, being a brand new service) they will associate the service with the product. It is better to let a provider take the heat and you the glory (at&t sucks, apple glorious).
I don't see any way that this will revolutionize the cell phone industry, and now that apple is allowing the common user to design, produce, and use their own programs with SDK the gPhone and it's copycat technologies won't last long.
Does anyone else smell a wiff Zune in the air?
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And I hate Apple, I hate their computers, I hate their mp3 players, I almost hate their phone.
So I definatelly buy a Google phone even if it will be overpriced and if it will work in Europe.
the gphone is coming and i have found a german description about the
a href="http://www.mobilefacts.de/276-google-handy-neue-iphone-konkurrenz-namens-gphone/">Google Handy
Greetz Chris
What will this mean to the average Joe Public?
As the source code is completely open source, anybody and i mean anybody can write an app for the Gphone for FREE, give it to the friends for FREE.
Now there will be some companies that have invested time and money into developing apps for the Gphone, and yes they can charge for them, that is their choice, but as with the nature of ALL GNU/linux (which android is) for every 1 commercially available app, there will be half a dozen or more free (and sometimes better) apps that will do exactly the same thing.
Now I could rant on about GNU/Linux etc but I wont......
Back to the topic in hand.
The video footage of ACTUAL phones running Android completely obliterate anything I have seen the I-phone do. (Several of my friends have the I-phone but are now looking at changing)
The apps will take a to become fully available, this is a new OS, I know alot of people are working on the SDK (Software Development Kit) for Android so people are creating the apps, and if you cant find the app to do what you want, get the SDK (its FREE) and try and create the app to do what you want, once you have created (or attempted) there is NO risk to your phone as you run it virtually 1st to test, what more could you ask for.
In my opinion the thing that is really going to dictate if the G-phone takes of or not will be the price, I Google want the phone to out to the mass markets and be available to everyone then they will need to ensure it doesn't come with the £350 sim free price tag that the the latest phones usually have attached.
I have seen reports that the US market will be getting the phone for roughly $100 / £50 lets see what price they try and sell it to the UK market for.
Time will tell
but just one thing should be mentioned here.
it's battery...actually my ipod touch is nearly useless after 1 year,coz it got problem in charging,every 2 hours i'm charging it just turn out to be 5 minutes playing.
so i hope apple can develop its products with battery with replacement,that's all.
i don't like the poor google