DISQUS

last100: Internet streaming: five U.S. television networks compared

  • Andrew · 2 years ago
    Typo of the day: "Fox on Demand website... is retched." That last word is at least at effective as the one starting with a "w".
  • Steve O'Hear (editor) · 2 years ago
    @Andrew I'm tempted to leave it :-)

    OK, fixed.
  • Need2No · 2 years ago
    It was great for Jericho that CBS not only put it on-lline on InnerTube, but left the site up so that we "NUTS!" Jericho Rangers could continue to watch the show while we convince CBS that they WERE on the right track.

    One baby step for viewers; one GIANT step for corporate America !! BUT they're stepping.
  • Matt Scherer · 2 years ago
    Daniel,

    I really love the article on the streaming media shows available online. I noted from reading your biography that you're based in Austin. If you're interested in seeing an electronic video catalog technology that merges advertising with content, please let me know. I would be glad to set up a visit with you and our staff.
  • Matt Scherer · 2 years ago
    Daniel,

    I really love the article on the streaming media shows available online. I noted from reading your biography that you're based in Austin. If you're interested in seeing an electronic video catalog technology that merges advertising within the show's content, please let me know. I would be glad to set up a visit with you and our staff here in San Antonio to show you the latest in product placement technology.
  • Quentin · 2 years ago
    That is total crap. I am really bad at getting to shows on time (especially Heroes from NBC). The only way to keep up with them is to watch them online... no, maybe they don't over them year round, but that is a marketing strategy.... You offer it for the season for FREE.... then, when it comes out on DVD, there is no reason to give it for free when they can make money off of iTunes or the DVD. Think about it....
  • Smitty · 2 years ago
    I'm not found of having to go to each individual network site to see if there is anything I want to watch. That's until I found http://tvgush.com
  • Cwick · 2 years ago
    A nice article, but your pdf of the upcoming fall schedule and which shows will be streaming seems a bit incomplete. None of the new shoes for NBC or ABC are filled in, and I would think they'll both put their higher-profile content online to build buzz. Are you planning on going back and filling in the schedule once it's announced which new shoes will be streamed?
  • Chris · 2 years ago
    Good comparison. I find myself slowly slipping away from traditional TV. I'm down to regular ole antenna TV and rarely turn it on unless for local news. As a result I've been getting the majority of my video entertainment via the web. I've published a list of my favorite sites for getting TV/Movies which you can see here

    http://www.allthatscool.com/2007/05/31/top-12-s...
  • Leif · 2 years ago
    You complain about TV networks not keeping up with technology and then you post a tv schedule in a PDF? I'd much rather a URL to bookmark then a PDF that sits on my desktop and gets out of date.
  • Steve O'Hear (editor) · 2 years ago
    @Leif, I thought pdfs were cutting edge ;)

    The guide was just to give you an example of the five networks current offerings to compare. If we published it as a URL I don't think it would automatically update. Unless you know something I don't?
  • Bart Myers · 2 years ago
    This is an excellent outline of the major issue with finding high quality network content online - everyone deals with it differently and it's a *&$% to find. Having said that SideReel (of which I am one of the founders) endeavors to index every episode of every show that the networks host.

    For example, if you look at 30 Rock on SideReel (http://www.sidereel.com/30_Rock) you will see prominent links to each episode that's available on NBC.com, as well as links to it on iTunes or Amazon if they're available. We try to do this with every show that's currently aired.

    It gets more complex, however, with sites like ABC.com which force a user to go through their player to find as well as to play an episode. This is fine if you're interested in playing the guessing game and watch whatever they have online. Unfortunately, they rarely have every episode of every show online and they don't publish a feed of these links making it impossible to deep link to these shows. Unfortunate, as we'd love to direct our users there.

    Bart Myers
    COO - SideReel.com
  • John · 2 years ago
    None of this content is viewable outside the US ?

    Bummer
  • John · 2 years ago
    You failed to mention that none of these services are available to people outside the USA.

    It's quite brilliant the way the networks make it so difficult to view their shows through their own websites, but it's relativly simple to pirate much higher quality videos which I can save, pause faxt forward, and generally work no matter what browser or player I choose to use.

    Fox for example doesn't support any browsers other than firefox >1.5 or IE >5.5. what about Opera, Safari, Netscape...
    although I shouldn't be surprised seeing as their political views seem stuck in the dark ages as well.

    Mostly I'm just disappointed that they are all so short sighted.
  • 800hightech · 2 years ago
    TV streaming through the internet, what a great idea. I watch alot of entertainment through video streaming online and its great that big players are catching on to this, shame shows aren't covered all year round but it is a start even if it is a slow one. Can't wait for that day where I am free to roam around watching anything I please on my iPhone.
  • So... · 2 years ago
    In reality, ABC, FOX, and CW all use the same player from Move Networks.

    Essentially, it's the same thing (the reason you only have to download it once) on all three of the sites, the only real difference being the bit-rate content is being served at.

    And it's not based on Flash, it's a proprietary format that uses a QVT file to send little packets across the web, to provide a non-buffering experience for end users that scales based on their connection speed.

    Just a bit more info. to let you make sense of what's going on in the world of streaming.
  • Steve O'Hear (editor) · 2 years ago
    @So...

    Thanks for the clarification. I've updated the post.

    - Steve
  • SH · 2 years ago
    NBC uses vanilla Flash streaming and IMO doesn't come close to ABC's video quality.
  • art hamm · 2 years ago
    only channal 3000 mdison, wisconsin does live streaming of its newscast, out of 1000 tv stations in usa. so much false information, miss information on streaming, that big media, does not allow for on internet, live streaming of sports, tv shows.Streaming is allowed, is for those in the united states, not outside.usa. Why is media billionaries able force thru congress hdtv, that no one wanted, than block streaming of tv, on internet, let commericals remain in streaming, than allow tv be seen live, if its cbs, nbc, abc, fox, pbs, law should require streaming of all free tv shows, are on network tv, require with no exception al lnewscast be streaming live, require all sportson commerical tv, be streaming with commericals.I live in manila, we have old amrican tv shows on cable here, than have far right republicn part fox news(cannot stand, mouth pieces for billionares) post how get us tv outside usa
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  • TK · 2 years ago
    You're crazy if you think there isn't allot of viewers using "torrent" sites.I've seen episodes of shows get downloaded 300,000+ times,and that was actually a few different shows getting stats like that.The reason that number is so high is because these over that air networks mentioned here over no live feed to their programming.It would not hurt them in the least to broadcast live over the net.The viewer would still be seeing the same commercial advertisements they see anyways,isn't that the point? So until these networks over that expect that number to stay high.Don't believe my logic on the number of downloads? Visit www.demonoid.com and find out for yourself.
  • TK · 2 years ago
    You’re crazy if you think there isn’t allot of viewers using “torrent” sites.I’ve seen episodes of shows get downloaded 300,000+ times,and that was actually a few different shows getting stats like that.The reason that number is so high is because these over the air networks mentioned here offer no live feed to their programming.It would not hurt them in the least to broadcast live over the net.The viewer would still be seeing the same commercial advertisements they see anyways,isn’t that the point? So until these networks over that expect that number to stay high.Don’t believe my logic on the number of downloads? Visit www.demonoid.com and find out for yourself.

    Just had to spell check that,seriously check then numbers and see where the consumer is...
  • http://namjunepaik.artistorgan · 2 years ago
    "NBC uses vanilla Flash streaming and IMO doesn’t come close to ABC’s video quality."

    Yes this I noticed too.

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  • John Doe · 1 year ago
    The Move player software they all use is one more security risk on your computer. All important security sites on the net issued advisories for the Move networks player on a regular basis. The reaction time of this company is slow.

    I understand a bit that the networks want to know who watches their programmes and when, but OTOH everybody has already 1-5 media players on his computer and it's an unreasonable demand to install yet another one that has potential to open your computer for criminals.
  • Espen Grimstad · 1 year ago
    Here is a guide on how to
    set up HotSpotShield VPN to watch streaming video on
    Hulu.com outside the U.S. The guide can be used for any other service with country restrictions as well, including ABC, CBS, NBC etc.
  • Ray · 1 year ago
    I can't believe this article was written with a straight face while talking about cbs. I have watched all the networks online now and the only one I consistantly have a problem with is cbs. In fact the only thing that works well online for them is their commercials. The videos constantly stop and start when they will load at all. It's clear to me they don't care about their viewers and the irritation they cause them.
  • cc · 1 year ago
    I cannot stand NBC online player. It's extremely slow. I don't know if anyone else has this problem, but I've waited 30 mins and all that loaded was 2 seconds of the show. I've tried Firefox and IE and it's the same shitass problem! Never had this problem with other websites though - other websites just load and I watch as it loads.
    NBC sucks big time!
  • keith · 1 year ago
    i want them to stream line sports like the basketball and football games that they are televising anyways. i work and do not have access to cable nor a tv but i have a dsl line and a laptop that i am aloud to use .i mean espn streams the basketball games that they are televising on espn 360.
  • Kenneth · 1 year ago
    i wood love to stream your feed on my internet tv station KLCH TV. how care i get you feed, my Statistics for klchtv.com are 48282 viewer Monthly. contact me at kenloyd29@yahoo.com
  • Streaming TV · 1 year ago
    If you want to stream basketball, I find your best bet is using sopcast. Download the player here

    www.sopcast.com
  • Ashley Nuckles · 1 year ago
    Last year it worked fined, but this year suddenly I can't watch the episodes from cbs.com in full screen! I can watch full screen episodes on all the other television station's websites. My computer is in prime condition-I did full check ups...what's the problem CBS?
  • Sarah M. · 1 year ago
    I can't see the videos in CW11 and abc.com in full screen!!! I used to see all the episodes in full screen but now I can NOT!!! It's very annoying... What's the problem? How can I fix it?
  • Aliaksandr Isakau · 10 months ago
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  • Skeeball · 3 months ago
    I'd like to see round the clock live multicast streaming video from my local network affiliates. I've got DSL, but over the air reception in my area is poor at best. Dumped satellite as I don't watch enough TV to justify the expense. If they're worry about out of market viewing perhaps they could issue digital keys to local residents to control access.
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